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Ultra12

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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2012, 12:56:45 PM »

Thank you Jason. I was considering B&C because of The aluminum block. I really like grs stocks. They are the same price as xlr chassis but no aluminum block and correct me if I am wrong it will need to be bedded. At that price you can just bolt your action in to xlr chassis. I really like the carbon fiber varmint version but What deterred me was the absence  of an aluminum block.
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Jason_McHann

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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2012, 01:10:08 PM »

One of the great things about Tikkas are that you do not need to bed them.  The recoil lug design makes sure that the gun goes back into the stock the same way every time.  That is the main purpose of bedding an action.

Stock manufacturers put aluminum blocks in their stocks to make up for poor craftsmanship.  The block is designed to touch the sides of a round action (which the Tikka is flat sided) to align it inline with the barrel channel.

The B&C stock was not inline with the barrel channel and because the Tikka is flat sided, the inlet results in only half the contact with the recoil lug that there should be.

The Helmick, GRS, and XLR are a straight drop in stock that offer superb accuracy and ergonomics.

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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2012, 01:24:51 PM »

Thank you
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manitou210

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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2012, 10:44:34 PM »

Hi Ultra

I haven't met a Tikka yet that couldn't be made to shoot great.  That being said, some can get temperamental about ammo, action torque settings, and whether or not the stock is slightly touching the barrel 2-4 inches from the receiver.

My 223 shoots everything extremely well EXCEPT 75 or 80 grain A-Maxes.  This is incredibly bizarre because I have never heard of a gun, with proper twist, that didn't like A-Maxes.  Maybe it was my powder choice.  It is just a quirk with the gun.  Since it shoots Bergers to 800yds under half moa, I haven't worried too much about it.

As for an accurate stock, I would stay away from the B&C.  We had one here that we planned on testing, but the craftsmanship and inlet design were so horrible that we decided to not change damaging one of our rifles.

Hunters seem to love them.  This makes sense since most hunters don't put thousands of rounds of ammo through their guns each year and are typically looking for minute of deer accuracy to around 300 yards.  There is NOTHING wrong with this.  It is simply something I have observed.

The aftermarket stocks we have seen the best accuracy  with are the Helmick Arms, GRS, and XLR systems.   For looks and adjustability you can't beat the GRS.  If tactical is what you are after the XLR is hard to beat.

More info can be found here:  http://www.tikkaperformance.com/Tikka%20T3%20Aftermarket/Tikka%20T3%20Aftermarket%20Stock

All of these have an oversized recoil lug built into the stock for added rigidity.

Hope this helps!

Jason
Jason I have test the 223 catridge firing over 5000 rounds the A max bullet is the worst bullet ever made, ogive measurements are all over the place, loose tips, weight variances there not even close to Bergers or Jlk bullets in .224
The best bullet I have found to 900m is the 80.5 Berger but the 90gr Bergers will work better after 600m you gain over a 100BC you just can,t give up that much but they won,t staabilize in a Tikka 1/8 twist
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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2012, 12:26:24 PM »

I just got my T3 Varmint and finally got the scope mounted as well as getting it broke in.  After that I shot some 69 gr SMK's and they were 1/2 moa or under at 100 yds.   So that was OK.  It didn't like the PMC and other factory 55 grainers at all.  Then I shot some 75 AMAX's that had different loads of Varget in them ranging from 24 to 24.3 grains.   Six shots were (along with me jerking in a .525 group and 4 of those were in a .320 group and three were in .220 group.  I know I wasn't holding any better than that.  I moved on the shot that made it a .525 group.  Given that the loads were a variety of powder loads I was pretty happy and so now I know where to start.  The reason the loads were  a variety is that I dropped the box of ammo at the range and of course couldn't tell which one was which after I picked them up.
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Tozguy

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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2012, 01:09:27 PM »

Don't forget to try a tuner. A tuner can take a .325 group down to .125 at 100 yds.
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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2012, 10:06:49 AM »

Are these the rubber donoughts (sp) ?  where do you mount these for best effectiveness?
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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2012, 05:58:35 PM »

This link might help answer the question.
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3794023.msg36110604#msg36110604

You can DIY with plumbing fittings and it works great. 
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Tozguy

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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2012, 06:12:08 PM »

Another version of DIY using Sinclair die lock rings for weights on a 5/8ths flare fitting.
Haven't tried this one yet but as stated in an article on tuners, any tuner might be better than no tuner at all.
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Re: Tikka T3 Varmint 223 Accuracy
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2012, 08:40:11 AM »

Well after the second trip T3 Tikka Varmint, I found a 80 gr AMAX load that seems to work.  4 shots went into a ragged hole of .176 and the 5th shot I moved which extended the group to .400.   I could not believe the group but was very happy with it.   I used new Win Brass and 205M primers with 24.3 grains of Varget.     24.4 grains of Varget seemed to mildly start flattening primers.   They are loaded to slightly off the lans.

This is the first time I used this load,  does anyone think it's smart to load a bunch of these.    Should I do another test.   The reason I ask is I have a load with 69 gr SMK's that consistently shoots exceptional with 26 gr Varget and it works in both of my Tikka's.
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